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We are Talia and Tonya (the “T-n-T” of this podcast): two attorneys fascinated by true crime and the law. Listen to our true crime podcast as we unearth cases involving murdered, missing,  and wrongfully convicted people.  If you want to help support us and get full, member only episodes, early releases, AMAs, ad free episodes, access to live episodes and more, become a member by  joining here.

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Killer Fiction (Online Only)
29 March 2020

Serial Killer Gerard Schaefer rekindled the romance he once had with his high school sweetheart, Sondra London, while on death row in the Florida State Penitentiary. Coincidentally, Sondra was a true crime writer, so she was able to get the rights to the short stories that Gerard had written, along with his drawings. She published two books then broke off their engagement with him, moving on to serial killer Danny Rolling. The first book, Killer Fiction, which is the basis for this episode, includes the writings of Gerard found by police while exercising their search warrant of his home in 1972. In addition, the book contains new writings created by Gerard while in prison. It is believed by most experts that these writings are not fiction, but actual accounts of Gerard’s murders. Warning: this is a very graphic episode.

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EP25: Murders in the Mangroves
30 March 2020

Gerard Schaefer, a former Florida police officer, is one of the world’s most vile and prolific serial killers.  For 10 years he tortured, mutilated and murdered women in three different continents.  He took pleasure in the mental anguish even more than the physical pain he inflicted on his victims and preferred to kill two women at one time for “double the pleasure.”   In order to ensure he didn’t get caught, he studied the behavior of other serial killers.  However, in 1972, two women managed to escape when Gerard left them tied to the mangrove trees with nooses around their necks while he went to work.  He was arrested by his own co-workers at the police station he worked at.  While in prison, he mingled with the likes of Ted Bundy and Otis O’ Toole, later stating that Ted Bundy sought advice from him.   Gerard Schaefer is proof that monsters can disguise themselves as normal human beings.

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